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- From: holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz)
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- Subject: Re: "The Guns of Dallas" by L. Fletcher Prouty
- Keywords: conspiracy is only effective as long as the trick is a secret
- Message-ID: <kukm1nINNn78@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
- Date: 14 Apr 92 03:57:43 GMT
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- In article <1992Mar27.161114.26346@odin.corp.sgi.com>
- dave@ratmandu.esd.sgi.com (dave "who can do? ratmandu!" ratcliffe) writes:
-
- > The following appeared in the October, 1975 issue of "Gallery," a porno
- > magazine which billed Fletcher Prouty as the "National Affairs Editor."
- > THE GUNS OF DALLAS
- > (c) 1975 by L. Fletcher Prouty
- > [...] They were all pawns, just
- > like Nixon was. This is a game for the biggest stake of all--
- > absolute control of the government of the United States of America;
- > and, with control of this government, control of the world.
-
- Damn, he's on to us.
-
- > [...] But if we don't act now, there will be consequences.
- > These will begin with either the cancellation of elections in 1976
- > or with elections that will be a total sham. For who will dare run
- > against the candidate of the conspiracy?
-
- Well, Prouty looks awfully stupid now, doesn't he? Or was Jimmy
- Pureheart Carter also a "candidate of the conspiracy"?
-
- > Arlen Specter [...] says the first
- > bullet hit JFK, passed through the muscle of his upper back exited
-
- Prouty should get his facts straight. The WC didn't commit itself to
- whether the first or the second shot hit Kennedy in the back. We now
- know that it almost certainly was the second shot.
-
- > the bullet would have had to have made a
- > right and upward turn upon leaving JFK's throat, paused in midair
- > for more than two seconds,
-
- Sorry, but c. Z218 the wounds were lined up just fine, all in the same
- split second.
-
- > It is not too difficult to determine precisely when (what frame
- > of the movie film) the first shot was fired;
-
- It's not *too* easy. The best evidence is that Connally turns to his
- right in Z162-167, which is what he says he did immediately after
- hearing the first shot.
-
- > he performed this feat in super-marksmanship time of 6.8 seconds
-
- Given that 4.6 seconds was the minimum time needed, 6.8 seconds is
- almost leisurely.
-
- > James Tague. He was hit by a fragment of concrete knocked off the
- > curb by a bullet that had hit a curbstone near where he stood.
-
- No, it was probably a bullet *fragment* that hit the curb.
-
- > The Zapruder film makes it abundantly clear that the top of the
- > President's head was blown off
-
- Prouty's eyesight is as bad as his hearing (from his performance on
- C-SPAN, he's either senile or half-deaf). The wound in the Z film is
- on the right side of Kennedy's head.
-
- > The earliest time a shot could line up with the President
- > was at Z-210. At that time the tree was no longer in the way.
- > What did the Warren Commission think? Apparently, nothing. It
- > ignored the tree.
-
- Prouty LIES. The Warren Report says:
-
- [...] the agents concluded that at frame 166 of the Zapruder film
- the Presdidentt passed beneath the foliage of the large oak tree and
- the point of impact on the President's back disappeared from the
- gunman's view as seen through the telescopic lens. For a fleeting
- instant, the President came back into view in the telescopic lens at
- frame 186 as he appeared in an opening among the leaves. The test
- revealed that the next point at which the rifleman had a clear view
- through the telescopic sight of the point where the bullet entered
- from behind the tree [was] at frame 210.
-
- This is completely consistent with shots at c. Z161 and c. Z218.
-
- > (See photos 10,11. [NUMBERs 10, 11. Two pictures
- > confirming that a shot struck JFK at Z-189. Compare photo number 7
- > with number 10. Picture number 10 is Z-190. JFK's right hand
- > snaps slightly forward in 1/18 second. From here until he goes
- > behind sign (Z-204) JFK's right hand drops steadily and begins to
- > clench into a fist.
-
- No way. Doesn't happen. Look at the film.
-
- > Willis said he snapped photo in reaction to hearing first shot.
- > Photo was sanpped at Z-202
-
- How did Prouty get this number? The WR says the picture was taken at
- approximately Z210. That would make Willis' reaction time either .7
- seconds or over 1 second; either way, pretty darn slow for a startle
- reaction.
-
- At any rate, Willis must be wrong that he was reacting to the "first
- shot", because the first shot occurred way back c. Z161 and caused
- Connally to turn to his right. I think the most we can say is that
- Willis slide 5 was taken near the time of the second shot.
-
- > 13-16. [NUMBERs 13-16. This series of frames from the Zapruder
- > film show that JFK's right hand is still falling and clenched as he
- > emerges from behind the sign (up to frame Z-225). Note the drastic
- > change in his position: hands, head, elbows, shoulders, and arms
- > (between Z-225 and Z-227) in just 2/18 of a second. This indicates
- > a second shot striking him in the back at Z-225.])
-
- No, his movements from Z224ff are all one continuous reaction to the
- shot that struck him in the back c. Z218.
-
- > The acceleration back to the left in the first two frames
- > following Z-313 have been calculated by Josiah Thompson in "Six
- > Seconds in Dallas" at more than 75 feet per second per second.
- > The shot came from the grassy knoll, right to front.])
-
- Huh? In the first two frames after impact JFK's head moves *forward*.
-
- > Of course, the umbrella man could have been a perfectly innocent
- > guy, why not find out?
-
- He was, and the HSCA did. He was protesting Kennedy's alleged
- appeasement policies by displaying the trademark of Chamberlain, the
- world heavyweight appeasement champion.
-
- > As important as this Altgens photograph is, it was
- > found that it had been severely cropped when it was tucked into the
- > Warren report. Why did someone go to that trouble?
-
- When you blow up a photo, you either crop it, or print it as a poster.
- That the Warren Report was not published as a poster series is not
- very strong evidence of a conspiracy.
-
- > And worse still, there is absolutely no record anywhere that
- > these men were booked that day. There are no "blotter" records
- > at all. The men have simply vanished. (See photos 32-35
- > [NUMBERs 32-35.* Policeman with "tramps."
-
- The DPD released their arrest records recently. "Inside Edition" or
- some such TV show tracked down one of them; he was clearly a clueless
- ex-hobo.
-
- > Then one begins to wonder--understanding full well the
- > capability of modern-day communications and reporting--who it was
- > that was able in so short a time to come up with such a life
- > history of so obscure a twenty-four-year-old "loner."
-
- Wire services and major newspapers work up and maintain biographies of
- all figures that they report on. As a double defector, Oswald was
- hardly "obscure".
-
- > [3] X-rays show a piece of the bullet is still in Connally's thigh bone,
- > yet there is no fragment that size missing from that bullet.
-
- Wrong. There is no evidence that the Connally fragments are
- inconsistent with CE 399.
- --
- Brian Holtz
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